I knew Kevin would chime in, thanks. We use Liguimolly, Pentosin for Esters. We get a great price, We have all the ACEA, Beemer, VW MB Certs we need, and we have great results. We just pulled a VW V8 that was sludged, at 130K. Using Dealer bulk oil. LOL Owwww.... Login to read more.