Posted to Technical Tips Forum on 12/3/2012
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As a diagnostic tech, there are a few things I really don't
like. One is intermittant faults, two is diagnosis by
substitution. Yet the two often go hand in hand. If you
can't find a fault, you can't show-prove what the cause is.
So you can either send it out NTF, or try replacing the
"most likely cause". My thought is that if you change
nothing on a vehicle, then there is no reason for the
symptom to NOT return- eventually. But I really want to get
a "smoking gun" if I can.
Now it might be an educated guess for replacing a part, but
it's still a guess. That seems to be the case too often on
parts such as the electronic throttle body assemblies. Most
are fairly "simple"- a reversible motor with dual TPS
sensors. Yet I seldom have had any luck capturing proof of a
glitch- be it TPS or motor codes. So I have replaced the TB
units ( they ARE high wear item) & sent them on their way-
so far all have been no further trouble.
A few weeks back a 2010 Mercury Milan 3.0L came in with a
MIL & complaint of intermittant no throttle response- car
would idle-only until restarted. Pcm had a P2111- Throttle
Actuator stuck open."the throttle angle does not match the
angle commanded"- Possible causes are TB (bind), pcm, wiring
open, short, etc.
Of coarse it won't act up for me. The code flow chart has
you perform a bunch of continuity tests that might help if
there was a hard fault- all tests pass. Pin drag tests were
OK, Since a couple tests were for the TPS's, I swept them on
the scope- both looked fine. (towards the end of the chart
it says to replace the TB assembly & have a nice day)
I thought about the code description & tests- this wasn't a
TPS fault code, it was a motor circuit code. I reasoned that
the pcm could only be detecting a hi or low current
condition. I threw the low amp clamp over a motor wire & got
current spikes that varied & inverted as the pcm supplied
PWM +/- to open-hold-close the throttle blade. see the first
waveform. [2010 Mercury Milan Premier, ECM/Inputs/Outputs
Waveform]
Looking closer, I found a couple spots where the spikes were
cut short & looked ragged. Something was bad, but I wasn't
100% sure what- motor? pcm driver? (didn't look quite right
for a wiring fault, but I didn't have time right then to
look at the pcm-motor voltage patterns on the scope) see
second waveform. [2010 Mercury Milan Premier,
ECM/Inputs/Outputs Waveform]
Since I wanted to test the throttle body without the pcm &
wiring, it finally dawned on me to treat it like any other
motor- feed it power & ground then look at the pattern on
the scope. I hooked test leads to the TB connector, but fed
it through a #912 bulb- that allows a enough current to open
the blade, but limits it to about 1 amp when it reaches full
travel so I don't hurt the motor or geartrain. I got the
third waveform- which shows the bad commutator bar in the
motor very clearly. [2010 Mercury Milan Premier,
ECM/Inputs/Outputs Waveform]
So here is an easy test to check the health of this direct
pcm controlled type TB motor. Like fuel pump waveforms, this
isn't 100% yes-or-no, but if it looks really bad then you
know (& can show) that the part does need to be replaced.
Chris from New Jersey
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